Originally a BMC guide in 1966 and a BMG guide from its inception. A qualified teacher of 3D Design / Technology and Mathematics (Loghborough DLC) and BEd hons. Bangor University. Following a teaching post in Birmingham, joined the staff of Ogwen Cottage (Birmingham LEA) and later the director of Flintshire's Outdoor Pusuits Centre. The final post before retirement, was with Coleg Normal, Bangor, and Bangor University as a Senior Lecturer involved with teacher education.